SCHNACKE\SCHNAKE JOHAN

Male Bef 1572 -


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  • Name SCHNACKE\SCHNAKE JOHAN 
    Born Bef 1572  Hilverdingsen 19 - head of household in 1572 and1596, Westfalen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Person ID I15588  Gynzer's Genealogy Database
    Last Modified 4 Jul 2005 

    Children 
    +1. SCHNAKE SON,   b. 1594,   d. Hilverdingsen.(see notes) Find all individuals with events at this location
    +2. SNAK\SCHNACKE ENGELKE,   b. Bef 1631, 19 Unterluebbe, Westfalen, Germany; head of household 1631 Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID F05369  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • First, it helps to know that Unterluebbe was incorporated (exactly when I don't know) from smaller villages, including Hilverdingsen, wehre house Nr. 19 was located, and Hoefen, where house Nr. 33 was located. Sometimes they still use the old names, so Hilverdingsen 19 and Unterluebbe 19 are the same. Likewise, Hoefen 33 and Unterluebbe 33 are the same.
      My earliest records come from the village register*, as church records were very spotty before 1650 adn many were destroyed in the 30 years war. So the precise line is not completely certain, but the Nr. 19 line starts with Johan Schnake with the earliest village register showing him as head of household in 1572 and again in 1596. Then Engelke Schnake in 1631, assumed to be son of Johan but might have "married the farm". Then Herman Schnake b. abt 1620, assumed to be Engelke's son but again he could have "married the farm". Whether these precise assumptions are correct or not, it is sure that all Nr. 19 Schnakes descended from Johan in one way or another.
      The line from Nr. 19 to Nr. 33 is also based on some assumptions, as follows:
      A Schnake b. 1594 died in Hilverdingsen. Since there was only one Schnake farm in Hilverdingsen in 1594 (I have a complete village listing of all houses), this would seem to connect him with Nr. 19 Hilverdingsen and he would be probably a son of Johan, whom we know to be the head of household in 1572 and 1596. Of course he could also be a son of another Schnake, maybe Johna' brother, but this seems to tied him to teh Hilverdingsen line. Again this is not proven but is my theory. We know from church records that teh Schnake living in Hilverdingsen had four children in 1601. On of them was most likely this person.

      * "Hofstaettenfolge-Register des Dorfes Unterluebbe", Beitraege zur Ortsgeschichte, Heft I: Heimatverein zwixchen Berg und Bruch: Oberluebbe und Unterluebbe, Hille 1989. Translation: "Farmstead register of the Village of Unterluebbe, Contributions to Village Hisoty, Notebook I, Homeland between Mountain and Marsh, Oberluebbe and Unterluebbe. Hille, 1989.
      Roy Johnson


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